Watch for Media to start hitting Obama

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NOW you will see why its NOT a good idea for Obama to be this far ahead in the polls this early

American Presidential campaigns are basically a money pump for the media. The canditates alone will have spent a Billion or more in ad buys alone by Nov 4. But the ratings from the campaign are huge too drawing in more ad revenue. If one canditate pulls way ahead Its like a Yankees game at 7 0 at the 7th inning. Everybody goes home. The media can't let that happen its worth too much to them so already you have Bob Scheifer feeding "Obama unpatriotic" straight man questions to republican stooges. Debunk the Ayers rubbish? don't wait up..
Watch for "Biographical" video to appear on the networks stressing Obama's growing up in Indonesia and Hawaii.. In depth examinations of Rev Wright for no particular reason. All with the excuse that they are covering McCains negaqtive "charges". Anything to close the race and keep the ratings up.

Obama did not mean to be this far ahead yet. The economic crisis has knocked him forward from his game plan and he will have to be really careful to hang in. The point is all the repubs need to do is keep the race looking close enough on Nov 4 so that when they steal the election its not so obvious that it starts a revolution.
 
That s one more reason Obama has concentrated on the ground game. With all those workers out there he can keep a closer eye on the poll shenannigans better than any Democrat has ever managed before. It is possible that the repubs just wont be able to manage a real response this year take a look at fivethirtyeight.com take on the ground game some really interesting pics.

Scotty

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wow (none / 0)
That's a really good point.  Our corporate media loves a good fight, and if one candidate pulls ahead of the other they'll do their best to make it seem "equal."  It seems like Obama's pretty good at keeping his opponent close in his discussion of the issues, even as he's shooting ahead in the polls.  I think the last week before 11/4 is going to be the most important in this election.  That's when Obama has to be most on his A-game, no holds barred.  He should unleash his most devastating attacks on McCain then, keep the media buzzing up into the elections.  But he shouldn't do it TOO late, because then McCain's camp would say he's just trying to play on emotions, and the media would buy into that storyline.  Maybe the week BEFORE the week of the election, and keep some missiles in reserve in case McCain's people throw convention to the winds and ramp up attacks to the end.  Hmm.

Regardless of media politics though, the only thing I think could let the Repubs take this election at this point is a national security crisis (another 9/11-like situation, a war with Pakistan/Iran, or anything like that) between now and Election Day.  That's barring any kind of polling fraud.

I wonder if McCain's people won't sabotage the polling firms (like Rasmussen, RCP, CBS, etc.) before the election too, to make it seem as though numbers are artificially close?  That's conspiracy theory but you never know with these clowns.

by marlonm on 10/05/2008 06:56:06 PM EST

another 9/11 (none / 0)
I think another 9/11-like crisis will be a strike 2 of attacks on the nation under Republican watch.

That will easily become a negative for Repubs. Americans clearly didn't buy the economy bull shit the Repubs tried to spin in the wake of the meltdown and Americans are growing increasingly wary and distrustful of the Republicans.

Another attack on American soil would be a disaster for the republican party. Wait, they caught Osama right? Oh, wait, they still haven't? How long has it been? 7 years...

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by chrisandyasemin on 10/05/2008 07:07:58 PM EST

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9/11 attack (none / 0)
I don't know.  I think the Repubs have made themselves the war/xenophobia party, and anything that brings national attention toward war and fear of foreigners will help bolster the Republican party.  McCain can out-bluster Obama, and sometimes the American people want bluster.

That said, McCain couldn't make much of an argument for his ticket (aside from a show of his blustering character), since Obama's been right on all the foreign policy points and people are seeing McCain as more of an old fuddy-duddy than ever before.  But it could still happen.

by marlonm on 10/05/2008 07:49:46 PM EST

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they wouldn't stand a chance (none / 0)
McCain has at least three additional things against him that I can think of off the top of my head, in the event of another attack:
a. Palin a heart beat away from being president (c'mon not even the dumbest rightwing nut is going to feel comfortable with that)
b. "Today we're all Georgians" meets "The economy is still fundamentally strong" talk about blundering in the heat of the moment.
c. Lets suspend the campaign... and erm, time. Can we do that? Can we just stop time? If not, we gotta get workin on that fellas, c'mon!

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by chrisandyasemin on 10/05/2008 08:31:03 PM EST

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you're probably right (none / 0)
And Obama's shown he'll call McCain on his crap.  I'm just jittery about the Dems, lol.  I was a new voter in 2004, and my first experience of voting was watching Bush b.s. his way into the White House with fear tactics based on current events that apparently appealed to a lot of Americans.  It was a terrible moment for our country.  I see those same tactics in the current Repub. campaign and it makes me worry.  But I think you're right: less people are willing to buy the fear tactics this time around because they see what a mess we're in.  And McCain's damaged his reputation so the whole "honorable war hero" image doesn't carry as much water.

by marlonm on 10/05/2008 11:37:24 PM EST

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some thoughts (none / 0)
Obama was ahead in the primaries against Clinton for (what seemed like an eternity) about a month or two and the media instead focused on Clinton and how impossible it would be for her to win. So perhaps we can expect something similar between Obama and McCain now. I donno I'm just guessing.

Speaking of his ground game, I still don't think all of those newly registered voters are being tracked by the polling radar since they aren't "likely voters" so nobody is asking their opinions. I am betting that Obama is really ahead by more like 20 percentage points if you factor all the newly registered voters who are fired up to vote.

The Repubs will most certainly try to steal the election, but based on the polling, even if the margin narrows to say a 5 point lead by November, they will be trying to turn down/disqualify say 1/20 voters in swing states and think that will be enough. When really they are going to have to be trying to do that to 1/10 voters...

Obama's ground game has this under control, I think. They have volunteers nationwide who will be organized and waiting at the polls to counter the right-wing tricks.

Honestly, I prefer people to underestimate Obama's ground game and organization...

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by chrisandyasemin on 10/05/2008 07:02:59 PM EST

The Media... (none / 0)

...wouldn't admit tht Obama had won the primaries until nearly 2 months after it was mathematically impossible for Clinton to win.  They kept dragging out the race until the meeting where they decided what to do with the Florida and Michigan delegates.  After that, the media couldn't keep up the charade any longer.

by rbruck on 10/05/2008 08:14:36 PM EST

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media hitting obama (none / 0)
i agree with you. what we need to do is go out and get a bunch more of these illegals in here and make up a bunch more of these fake id's. and get them registered to vote. it's simple. only in america can we make fake id's show them at the ballot office and vote in the same day. who will ever know. the morans in this government will never catch on. they still can't figure out how they got into this mess with wall street and the bad mortgages. what morans. typical politics.  all they are worried about is the fact that some one else got away with all the money and they got nothing for theres. when are savior obama gets in there he will straighten them out. he's got them working for him. he's my man for president. a real american. steal from the infidels and wipe them out . they will never see it coming. stretch there military out all over the world, hit them in the wallet,ruin there financial backbone, use a little terror to draw them off and hit them hard until they have nothing left to fight back with.  come on obama put it to old McCAIN just like he got it in the prison camps.

by i812 on 10/05/2008 08:17:00 PM EST

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the meth-head is back (none / 0)
Dude who are you and which rock have you been living under?

Crack is whack.

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by chrisandyasemin on 10/05/2008 08:33:26 PM EST

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you are in the wrong forum (none / 0)

Nobody here is advocating illegal methods of voting.  Are you here to make dems look bad?  I suspect so. 

by desertpear on 10/05/2008 08:46:39 PM EST

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Ground game, media and "strategery" (none / 0)
As I said in my first ever post here, Obama is a real master at this campaign stuff. One of the critical advantages he has re the media "backlash" that wil come as he rises in the polls and McCains Hannity style attacks is that he has tons of real people knocking on doors and joining  conversations in bars and phone banking there hearts out giving one on one responses to the nonsense.
There is the "conventional wisdom" that Obama's recent poll rise is exclusively due to the economy. There is no doubt that half of it is but much of it is also due to the fact that the entire McCain post convention post Palin bump was inherently built on a house of cards. Obama knew that and even before the polls showed Obama getting back in the lead the polls were already drifting back. As I said in the seed post here I think the economy bounce has actually set obama 3 -4 points higher than he is actually comfortable with at this point. Maybe thats putting it too strongly but I think Obama's campaign both in the general and the primary show both remarkable nimble response coupled with extraordinary long term strategy.
It is fascinating to watch.

by Scotty12 on 10/06/2008 12:18:56 PM EST

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You have GOT to be kidding! (none / 0)
You have got to be kidding!  Since when has the media ever hit Obama?  The only time that they even came close was during the "Rev. Wright Scandal" and even though they caught him lying straight to their faces, the media still gave him a free pass, as usual.

If, by some miracle, the media does decide to take a second look at some of the issues that they have let him slide on, maybe the American people can get a more realistic look at this man, instead of just seeing him as the "American Idol Candidate" when all he really is is an "Empty Suit."

Surely the famous journalists and newshounds should be able to come up with the same proof (and even more) to Obama's lies that I have!  I'm just a regular, every day person and I can proove that Obama has told bald-faced lies on several occasions, in relation to several important issues that he has been questioned about in front of the American people.

The proof that I have is in his own words or his own voice and sometimes both, depending on the issue.  Also, I'm not referring to the out-of-context sound bites that both political parties have been using in their advertisements to get their various points across, some honest and sometimes not.  What I'm talking about are specific answers to specific issues that cannot be explained away by Obama's normal diversionary tactics.  There is no mistaking the fact that he has lied and if you choose to ignore it after you see the proof, if you are brave enough to open your eyes, then it's on you!  But, maybe you already know and you don't care anyway...and if that's true, I feel sorry for you.

In closing, if the media is honestly going to start hitting Obama, then I say, "It's about time!"

by acushla712 on 10/05/2008 08:57:15 PM EST

who are these crazies... (none / 0)
and where have they come from? Seriously these newbies make Bobo and Kenny look like rocket scientists.

Please people, this is not Youtube...

We welcome new people and opinions but, please, none of that smear stuff that you hear from Palin, Faux News and Rush. Save that for the right-wing-nut-job rallies and Sean Hannity. At least TRY to make it sound real, geez.

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by chrisandyasemin on 10/05/2008 09:09:39 PM EST

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You Sound like you Watch Fox News (none / 0)
The station that brought you the "terrorist fist bump" does NOTHING but attack Obama.  The Associated Press has been "in the bag" for McCain for months.  An analysis of news articles about Obama during the primaries found that 65% of all articles were negative, attacking Obama, versus only about 40% were negative against Clinton.

When you compare Obama to McCain, even ignoring the horribly biased Fox and AP, it isn't much better.

The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University in Virginia, which has studied network news since the 1980s, analyzed content on ABC, CBS and NBC news shows and found that when reporters and anchors expressed opinions they were significantly more negative toward Obama and more positive toward McCain, the Los Angeles Times reported Sunday.

The researchers found that most statements by anchors and reporters were neutral, but when opinions were expressed 28 percent of statements about Obama were positive while 72 percent were negative. The study indicated opinions about McCain were 43 percent positive and 57 percent negative.

(UPI Article about Media Bias)

So, asking when the media has ever hit Obama is disingenuous BS.  If you don't know the answer to that, you haven't been paying attention.  And if you haven't been paying attention, then why should we bother reading what you write?

by rbruck on 10/05/2008 09:19:50 PM EST

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Wow, random italics, underlining and bolding! (none / 0)
This guy must know what he is talking about.

Palin in 2012? Bitch, please! No, really, please run in 2012, bitch. ;)

by richardshort2001 on 10/05/2008 09:23:41 PM EST

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yeah (none / 0)
for all those underlinings there was little to back all those claims up. These are people who soak up everything their told, and spit it back out mindlessly.

by chrisandyasemin on 10/05/2008 10:02:28 PM EST

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hey acushia (none / 0)
Why hasnt the media hit McCain on this?
John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League - the parent organization - which ADL said "has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.

And if you want to talk lies. I think Bush/McCain have that all sewn up.

by Chinese Democracy on 10/05/2008 10:00:54 PM EST

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lol (none / 0)
Aren't you starting a little late to be trolling anti-Obama crap on The Young Turks website?  Go back to damp hole you "regular every day person" you. 

by desertpear on 10/05/2008 11:02:19 PM EST

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I love all of the crazy formatting. (none / 0)
Like bobo on meth or something...

by Spencer on 10/06/2008 04:00:17 AM EST

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You "forgot" something (none / 1)
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Palin in 2012? Bitch, please! No, really, please run in 2012, bitch. ;)

by richardshort2001 on 10/06/2008 12:33:13 PM EST

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